Theater
is picking back up again around the state, with the Salt Lake Acting
Company leading the charge last month with their presentation of “The
Caretaker.” But if you thought they were finished bringing out the
high-quality works from well known playwrights, you might want to check the playbill
again.
--- This week the modern classic “Master Class” makes
it way to their stage, showcasing Maria Callas both belittle and take
pleasure in her singing students work as she calls back to her prior
profession. I got a chance to chat with Director David Mong, as well
as the show's star Anne Cullimore Decker, and the on-stage musical
accompaniment of Paul Dorgan about their careers and the show, as
well as thoughts on local theater.
David Mong,
Anne Cullimore Decker and Paul
Dorgan
http://www.saltlakeactingcompany.org/
Gavin: Hey
guys. First thing, tell us who you are and a little about
yourselves.
David:
Well, Gavin, that's a little metaphysical, but in short, I'm the
director of this piece, used to be an actor and have been a Literary
Manager and Press Weasel for SLAC. Now, I'm a gentleman of leisure,
until I find a real job. I love walks on the beach, my favorite color
is puce and I'm a Libra.
Anne:
Who am I? I am Anne Cullimore Decker.
Paul:
%uFFFDPaul Dorgan. %uFFFD Born in Ireland; trained as a pianist; did
plays/musicals in school; worked with various Opera Companies in US;
currently Adjunct Professor of Music at U of U where I work mostly
with singers.
Gavin: What
inspired you to take an interest in theater?
Paul: Don't remember when I was first taken to the theatre, but I was
very young; my first real memory was a performance of Gilbert and
Sullivan's "The Gondoliers" by the D'Oyly Carte Opera
Company - I was probably about 7 or 8.
David:
A composite of character flaws. Probably four of the seven deadly
sins, although I don't remember them all. I went to school as a
playwriting major and actor, but didn't graduate. This was the
seventies, after all. I got hooked up with a Salt Lake theatre
company called The Human Ensemble Repertory Theatre (this was the
seventies, after all) and acted and directed for them for several
years, then moved to Seattle to become a professional actor, which
means I did it for money.
Anne:
I started by writing reviews of plays for my high school newspaper.
The drama teacher was a good looking man, so of course, I decided to
sign up for one of his classes. I was initially hooked on his
classes on Theatre History; but encouragement from him gave me the
impetus to try my skills on "the boards." The rest is
history,...my own history. I majored in Speech & English (there
was no theatre department at that time), After marrying, having 3
children, I went back to school into Theatre in the Masters Program
when I got my MFA. Taught at East High School, and then at the
University of Utah in the Actor Training Program. I came very close
to discontinuing my education during my junior year when I was
offered a weekly TV program. Thank goodness, I turned that
down.
Gavin: How
did you first get involved with the Salt Lake Acting Company?
Anne:
Although I had been in the audiences of almost every SLAC
productions, it wasn't until I was asked to direct, Death of the
Salesman with Tony Larimer & Gail Hickman that I became involved
on the other side of the proscenium with this regional theatre. It
was a fabulous cast, an incredible script in a intimate space and
produced by a then small theatre company who believed in the same
principles and philosophies that I did. I felt very much as home
with them.
David:
I moved back to Utah in 1994, just as Allen Nevins and Nancy
Borgenicht were trying to pull SLAC back from the brink of folding.
In truth, they just invited me on board in an act of unmitigated
trust, made me their Literary Manager and Press Relations guy, and
gave me an opportunity to direct plays as the years unfolded. Allen
was an old pal from the Ensemble days and Nancy had directed the two
of us in WHITE MEN CAN'T DANCE at SLAC in 1990 or '91. I was still
living in Seattle at the time. Al and I confirmed the pronouncement
in the title and showed one or two other things white men can't do
very well. I remember we opened the play on the night we invaded Iraq
for the first time. Talk about a buzz kill. I worked for SLAC until
2008.
Paul:
%uFFFDI've seen many productions at SLAC, but never thought that I
would be in one!
Gavin: David,
how did you first come into this play back in 1998?
David:
Essentially, I was assigned the play, having opened my mouth once
too often to say I'd like to try to direct something. I was given the
play, I'm sure, because I knew the least about opera of anyone in the
state. It was one of the first plays I directed. Thank god Anne
Cullimore Decker was my Maria! And the rest of cast saved my ass, as
well.
Anne: I
had seen Zoe Caldwell on Broadway playing Maria Callas in Master
Class, and I wept over the play, her performance, the entire
experience. I was in Europe when SLAC announced Master Class on their
season. When I returned and was informed of this, my heart leapt
with the possibility of doing the role. But I was soon informed that
they had already offered the role to someone else. I was
heartbroken. There aren't many roles like this one for an actress.
So, when I received a phone call several weeks later offering me the
role (the original actor had backed out of it) I was elated, but
terrified. There were many moments during the rehearsal period
trying to get this role under my belt where I understood why she had
backed out. I wondered if I had taken on something that was
impossible, especially under an abbreviated time frame.
Gavin: Anne,
what was it like for you to be cast in the original version?
Anne:
Eleven years ago, we had to spend a great deal of time working with
pianists. We went through three of them!!! That added to my terror.
When it was proposed that they bring it back, I said, "Only if
you can contract a pianist now....and have him commit to the entire
run." When they got Paul Dorgan to agree, I was enormously
relieved on many levels. He also is our Opera expert advisor as well
as our Italian dialects coach. Invaluable.
Gavin: How
was it for both of you the first time around? And how did the
decision come to bring it back for this season?
David:
The first time around... hmmm... well to tell the truth, I have a
stunning lack of recollection of the first time. Ms. Decker and I are
having a contest to see who can remember the least about it. I do
know that I knew so little I wasn't quite as alarmed as I should have
been. I know more now, and I have what I believe to be the
appropriate level of fear! Still, we're having a great and deep time
with it. The prior production was a different world, I mean, eleven
years ago, for cryin' out loud. Who can remember? I'm glad we've got
another chance at it. Together. As for the reason it was brought
back, I wasn't really part of that process. I'm just happy they
included me.
Anne:
When they asked whom I would like to direct, I said, "If we can
get Mong to take it on again, that would be another safety net and a
pleasure to work with him again." And the dear boy agreed to it.
Having more time this time to work on the background of Callas,as
well as on the lines...and there are MANY...that has been a pleasure
and a privilege. I think we've both achieved a greater depth and
understanding not only of the play, but of Maria Callas herself.
She is in my bones now, and I think will be with me for the rest of
my life.
Gavin: Did
you both know you'd be working together again on this one? And
what's the experience been like working on it again?
Anne:
When they asked whom I would like to direct, I said, "If we can
get Mong to take it on again, that would be another safety net and a
pleasure to work with him again." And the dear boy agreed to it.
Having more time this time to work on the background of Callas,as
well as on the lines... and there are MANY... that has been a pleasure
and a privilege. I think we've both achieved a greater depth and
understanding not only of the play, but of Maria Callas herself.
She is in my bones now, and I think will be with me for the rest of
my life.
David:
Really, when I was asked if I was interested in directing it, it was
the knowledge that Anne was involved that made the decision easy.
What am I nuts? I always have a grand time working with Anne. She's
amazing in oh-so-many respects. This time is even better, because I
think we're both a little better prepared. The last time was a sprint
to the finish line. That much I remember. I think both Anne and I are
more assured in our craft, as the years have rolled by. Also, I'm
older and Anne is not. Swear to god. I think there's a really
disturbing portrait of her somewhere in an attic. She doesn't appear
to have aged AT ALL. Truly, I think we both dig deeper now, and
that's fun.
Gavin: Paul,
how is it for you to be a part of this play and literally playing the
entire score to the production on stage?
Paul: I'm loving this experience, though my days are long! %uFFFDI
usually finish teaching at the University at 3 and then I rehearse
from 4-9. %uFFFDI've played for many master classes so I know exactly
what Manny is feeling as the three singers arrive and perform their
arias for the great Maria Callas. %uFFFDWhat I find most fascinating
about the rehearsal process is the freedom; with opera so much is
controlled by the music, but that doesn't exist in a play. %uFFFDThe
actual playing is not a problem; remembering where my lines are is!
%uFFFDI've been a rehearsal pianist for productions of "Tosca"
and "Macbeth", so I know those arias well; and the aria
from "La Sonnambula" is a very popular one with certain
sopranos.
Gavin: Is
there anything you've done personally for the compositions and how
they'll play out or are you sticking strictly to the music
given?
Anne:
Getting the music that McNally specifies, including the specific 1952 live recording of La Sonnambula for example,
to coordinate with the lines of the script has taken a tremendous
amount of time and rehearsal. I have to time the words to what the
music is playing, and if I get off, it is a train wreck. If I were
singing the words, it would be much easier.....But I'm not suggesting
we do that!!! That would be worse and total catastrophe. There is a
description in the script which says, "Maria begins to sing the
first lines of the recitative. What comes out is a cracked and
broken thing; a voice in ruins. It is a terrible moment." I
can do that very well. Happily we have some lovely voices in our
students in the play as well as wonderful recordings of Callas
herself.
Paul:
%uFFFDMe, I'm sticking strictly to the music, and insisting that the
singers do so too!
Gavin: Considering
the content, from all your different point-of-views, would you
consider it more of a comedy or a mini-musical?
David:
Is neither an option? It's an amalgam of comedy-drama with music.
It's unique among it's peer in the way it incorporates the music,
which is really a character in and of itself It's also the fluid in
which time is suspended as Maria relives moments in her life.
Paul: The play has some funny lines, and there are musical moments. %uFFFD
%uFFFDBut I never thought of it as a "mini-musical" (even
when I saw it 11 years ago at SLAC!); the singers present themselves
at this Master Class, and what we are most intrigued with is Maria's
reaction to them, which is very different for each of them. %uFFFD %uFFFD
It is a play that has some laughs, but is ultimately very sad,
because we see what Maria sacrificed for her art; but those
sacrifices demanded a terrible toll on her personal life: she left
her husband (who had supported her in her early years of trying to
establish herself as a singer, and then saw her greatest successes in
the world's opera houses) for what she thought was the great love of
her life, only to be rejected for Jackie Kennedy. %uFFFDIn the end
she had nothing but her memories. %uFFFD And the play takes us into
those memories. %uFFFD The play is not a comedy, nor is it a
"mini-musical"; it is a play with music.
Anne:
This should not be labeled a comedy, or a min-musical or any other
stereotype. It is a homage to a great artist, who altered the
expectations of the experience of Opera. She brought back the
dramatic values of bell canto singing. Now audiences expect the
opera singers to not only sing these incredibly beautiful arias, but
to act them as well. This is a play about Art and Humanity which has
some terribly clever funny lines, but also tremendous insight into
humanity. We get to experience Callas' public face and her private
demons.
Gavin: What's
the overall feeling from all of you going into opening night?
Anne:
I just hope the audiences will enjoy the experience as much as we
are on stage. Master Class speaks of why we artists do what we
do!
Paul:
%uFFFDAfter two weeks of rehearsal we are now beginning to get a feel
for the arc of the play, and as we get more comfortable with our
characters, we are starting to explore them more deeply and we find
new aspects every day. %uFFFD The wonderful thing about being in this
production is that we have a ton of performances; in the opera world,
where I come from, there are usually just 2 performances, and that's
not enough to really know a character. %uFFFD And the rehearsal
period for an opera is much shorter. %uFFFD I'm looking forward to an
audience!
David:
As usual, anxious and hopeful, eager to share and still a little
protective of the process.
Gavin: A
little state-wide, what are your thoughts on local theater, both good
and bad?
David:
Under funded, under-attended, homeless half the time. I think we're
well rounded in terms of the diversity of theatre that happens here.
We surprise people around the country with the amount of theatre done
here. Of course a lot of outsiders still think we tie our horses up
in the street. I know when I'd go to new play festivals and what-not
around the country they would be floored by the kind of theatre SLAC
was doing. It's just such an uphill climb trying to find venues and
survive here. Though that's not exclusive to Utah, unfortunately. I'
m impressed that there's still a hunger coming from the younger folks
to do it. Bless their hearts.
Paul: In art there is always going to be good and bad, and there is
probably more bad than good: %uFFFDhow many of Shakespeare's
contemporaries are regularly performed today? %uFFFD %uFFFDBut
without bad plays how can we decide what are the good ones? Some plays, no matter how good, date themselves over the years; they
are so set in the society their author was depicting that they seem
to have little relevance to contemporary life. But, whether
the play itself, or the production of it (in the case of, say,
Shakespeare) is bad or good, there is something special about being
in the community of audience. In "Master Class"
Maria talks about how "holy" the theatre is for her;
historically theatre has always been a sort of "alternative"
church.%uFFFD Actors perform and audiences react to that
performance.%uFFFD Reading "King Lear" is not at all
the same as experiencing it in the theatre; in the theatre we see the
tragedy of the old man, and we become caught up in the audience's
reaction to that tragedy.%uFFFD Theatre, and all of the arts,
must be encouraged and supported - without Arts we are a very poor society.
Anne:
During times of financial difficulty, all the arts in the state are
having to be creative in maintaining their integrity and their
commitment to their communities It is always during difficult times,
that people realize the need and importance of the arts in their
lives. This is an ideal time for all of us to remember that without
our creative expression and contribution, there is very little
difference between us and other species.
Gavin: Is
there anything you believe could be done to improve it?
Anne:
Like our health program in the USA, we must find ways to make it
available to EVERYONE. We will have a healthier and happier society
if people have engaged in the arts, either as an artist or an
audience member. We must stop categorizing arts as superfluous
entertainment. Art defines who we are as a human race. It gives
meaning to our lives.
Paul:
%uFFFDGovernments, local and federal, must realize that the "Arts"
are vitally important to society's well-being. Government must
support the arts.
David:
Not to be a smart ass, but see above. You always crave more support,
but frankly, it's a marketplace and that can be a bit Darwinian, for
better or worse. Certainly, folks like you help because getting the
word out about theatre is becoming tougher as media sources
tighten.
Gavin: What
can we expect from you guys the rest of the year?
Paul: Nothing planned, but check the School of Music's "Sundays At 7"
series - I might be there!
Gavin: Aside
from the obvious, is there anything you'd like to plug or
promote?
David:
Health care! Come on, Dems.
Paul: Our Store, at 358 South and 300 East. It's a thrift
store run by the People with Aids Coalition of Utah.%uFFFD You can
find almost everything there: clothes, books, CDs, electronics,
furniture, toys, all at ridiculous prices; and you can donate just
about anything. %uFFFD The profits go to PWACU which provides
essential services to people with AIDS. %uFFFDIn today's economic
environment of government cutbacks PWACU needs all the help it can
get.