Bluntly
speaking, if you're a musician in Utah and you don't know who Corey
Fox is, who are you and why are you relevant? With a career
spanning across three decades and in several fields from promotion to
technical to management, Fox has been one of the biggest key figureheads
for local musicians to obtain a gig and get their name out. Helping
several bands and solo artists reach indie and national success along
the way; Joshua James, Issac Russell and The Neon Trees to
name a few. Furthering the cause in recent years by owning his own venue and being a founding member of production team The Occidental Saloon. With all the work he's
done it could easily be said that Provo, let alone parts of Utah
itself, wouldn't be the same without his influence.
--- Coming up this weekend are two milestones for Fox. 2011 marks his twentieth
year working with our music scene, and it also marks the fifth
anniversary for the opening of his venue, Velour. Aside the usual
congratulations, Velour itself will be throwing a three night
celebration with many of Utah County's finest, both past and present. Kicking off tonight with Corey Mon & The Starlight Gospel, Holy Water Buffalo, Ferocious Oaks and Gypsy Cab (just $8 at 8PM). Marking the occasion I got a chance to chat with Corey about his lengthy career as best we could, Velour in general, thoughts on Utah music and a few other topics that came up.
Corey
Fox
http://www.velourlive.com/
Gavin:
Hey Corey! First thing, tell us a little bit about yourself.
Corey:
My name is Corey Fox, I'm the owner of the Velour Live Music Gallery
in Provo Utah, and we are celebrating our five year anniversary this
month. 2011 will also mark twenty years for me working in the Utah
music scene.
Gavin:
What first got you interested in music, and what were some early
influences on you?
Corey:
My first taste of music was growing up listening to the rock and
metal that was coming out of my brother's bedroom, but at that time I
was more interested in drawing his KISS album covers than actually
listening to the records. My real love for music kicked in as a teen
when I discovered British bands such as Joy Division, New Order,
Depeche Mode, The Smiths, etc. There were no radio stations in Utah
Valley playing that stuff at the time so me and a friend would go to
the local record store every day after school and buy whatever new
album looked coolest. I caught the music bug at that time and it has
never stopped.
Gavin:
Did you seek out any college or professional training when it came
to music or business management, or did you just dive right into
it?
Corey:
I wish I could have seen the future at that time because business
management training would have definitely come in handy down the
road, but no. I also didn't dive right in to this business, it was
more like I was casually wading in the shallows and got hit by a
wave!
Gavin:
What made you want to go the management route as opposed to playing
in a group yourself?
Corey:
I actually hadn't planned on doing either. There was no local music
scene when I was growing up so kids didn't really even think about
starting bands. The only kids playing instruments were in our high
school's marching band. The Utah Valley music scene didn't start
until about 1990 but when it did it was an explosion and definitely
changed direction of my life.
Gavin:
You started out in the early '90s managing venues. How did you first
break into doing that, and what were some of the places you worked
with in the first few years?
Corey:
I actually didn't get into venue management until 1996. As I
mentioned above, there really wasn't a local music scene until about
1990 when a ska band called Swim Herschel Swim started up and spawned
a thriving scene. They were genius marketers and used to pull over a thousand people to their shows, which created an infectious excitement about
local music and inspired many new bands to form. It was at this time
I became a fan of a new folk-rock band called Ali Ali Oxen Free and
quickly grew from a fan, to a glorified roadie, to their manager in
1991. From that I added concert promoter and was heavily involved in
the nationally respected Utah Valley Ska scene of the 90's. In 1993 I
started managing the SLC band Clover who became one of the most
successful bands of the '90s in Utah, frequently selling out venues
like Kingsbury Hall along with having hit songs on local radio, songs
in movies and TV, etc. It was the success of Clover that got me my
first venue management offer, Wrapsody in 1996. Wrapsody was a
restaurant and venue and I managed the music half until 2000 when the
restaurant side failed and took the venue with it. From 2000-2002 I
managed the Venue Johnny B's which was a concert venue on the
weekdays and comedy club on weekends. In 2003 I was approached to
manage the new venue Muse Music which I did until 2005 when I decided
it was time for me to finally open my own place.
Gavin:
What made you choose working specifically in Provo and Utah County
as a whole, and what was it like for you establishing yourself in the
area while learning the ropes?
Corey:
The fact that I grew up in Utah Valley and got involved in this
music scene in it's infancy had a lot to do with it. I also think it
was a natural progression to continue building the scene that got me
interested in this business in the first place.
Gavin:
Considering some of the success you had early on, why did you choose
to stay in Provo instead of moving on and helping other
areas?
Corey:
There have definitely been times that I've thought about testing the
waters in other places, especially when I was at a crossroads after
Muse Music in 2005. Ultimately I decided that It was time to open my
own venue and that I would kick myself if I didn't open it in the
community I grew up in and was already established in. I also
believed that for this scene to grow to it's potential it needed a
legitimate music venue.
Gavin:
Prior to your own venture you ended up working with Muse Music. What
was your time like spent there and helping that place grow?
Corey:
I have good memories of my time at Muse Music and put a lot of work
into establishing that place. The music scene had taken a hit after
Wrapsody closed in 2000 and Muse ended up being the stage that
started bringing things back to life.
Gavin:
Of all the places you've helped out, which one was your favorite to
work with and why?
Corey:
Definitely Wrapsody. It was a beautiful 400 capacity venue and the
scene was full of great bands that could fill it at the time. The
impact of it closing affected the scene for years.
Gavin:
What made you decide to move on and start your own venue?
Corey:
A lot of reasons. I just felt like the quality level of the bands in
area was rising so quickly that they needed a more professional
environment to progress any further. It was also time for me to start
calling all the shots and create the venue that had been in my head
for years.
Gavin:
How did you choose the location on University Avenue, and where did
you come up with the name for Velour?
Corey:
The hundred block of University Avenue has always been a destination
for live music since 1992. Both Wrapsody and Muse Music were on this
block along with several other venues over the years. My number one
priority for Velour was atmosphere. I wanted to fill it with rich
colors and textures and tried to come up with a name that would
portray that without even seeing the club. I felt velvet was way
overused and decided Velour was a very fitting name. I also added
Live Music Gallery to the title, not because we also display art on
the wall, but because live music is often forgotten as art. I feel we
are displaying great art on our stage every night.
Gavin:
The place first opened up in January of 2006, what were the first
few months like and how did the community react to the new
venue?
Corey:
Well unlike a lot of new businesses who have to slowly build a
clientele, we had a built in fan base who were very eager for a new
venue. It took us six months to remodel the building which added more
anticipation, and I also kept the interior completely secret until we
dropped the curtains and opened the doors that first night. I think
that six months of anticipation helped out a lot as we opened with
lines around the block and several sell out shows in those first few
months.
Gavin:
The venue itself doesn't look like your average all-ages place or
your normal concert dive. What kind of planning went into the overall
look and vibe of the place?
Corey:
Atmosphere was very important to me. I was able to incorporate some
of my design elements into venues in the past but always held back
because it wasn't mine. With Velour I was finally able to design a
venue that fully reflected my vision. I wanted to create a building
that was as interesting as the band on stage. I also liked the
challenge of making a big room cozy, and making the band and crowd
feel at home... At least my twisted interpretation of home.
Gavin:
Considering Muse Music is just a few doors up and ABG's is
essentially around the corner, does it feel like there's a
competition between venues, or do you tend to support each
other?
Corey:
No, definitely not any competition between the venues. ABG's is it's
own world and we coexist very well with Muse Music. It's actually
pretty surprising how little cross over we have with bands and we
both support each other as much as we can. I actually support them
almost every night by buying one of their great sandwiches.
Gavin:
I read an interview long ago where you said it may not do
financially well because of the lack of alcohol sales, but would make
up for it with the crowds who don't go to bar venues. Looking at it
now a few years later, how would you rate that decision?
Corey:
Let's just say I knew what I was getting myself into. Our crowds are
never going to equal the loss of alcohol sales which makes me even
prouder that we've been able to stay in business this long without
that extra income. My intent was to open a venue where music was the
focus instead of being background music to a noisy bar, and as long
as we are still in business I'm happy with that decision.
Gavin:
How has it been for you seeing acts like Fictionist, Joshua James,
Neon Trees and Issac Russell kinda grow up in your venue and go onto
better things state and nation wide?
Corey:
In Isaac's case that is a literal statement. Isaac started sitting
in with his brother Spencer when he was a five foot tall thirteen year old,
now he's a towering nineteen year old signed to Columbia records and
touring the country. I'm very close to all of these artists and have
watched them all grow from fledgling musicians into the amazing
artists they currently are. The bands I work with are like family to
me and I'm glad the the rest of the world is starting to pay
attention to the talent I get to see every night.
Gavin:
This year will mark the%uFFFDtwentieth%uFFFDyear you've been involved with the Utah
music scene. What are your thoughts on being here that long and
having the tremendous impact you've created?
Corey:
Thank you. I feel very privileged to have worked with all the
amazing bands and and people that have been in my life for the last twenty years. It's hard to imagine that it has been that long until I
realize that some of the new bands popping up feature my friend's
kids...
Gavin:
It also marks Velour's fifth year open. How do you feel about its
success and what have you got in store for the celebration?
Corey:
It's definitely not been the easiest five years of my life but it's
hard to not feel fulfilled when Velour bands are now selling platinum
singles, playing major festivals, and on every major late night talk
show. It's a stressful business but I feel prouder than ever about
what I do for living. Our actual anniversary shows are the 13th-15th
but the entire month is stacked with all-star lineups to celebrate
the anniversary.
Gavin:
Looking at the venue as it is, are there any plans to expand or
bring in new events or specialty nights, or are you mainly sticking
to things as they are now?
Corey:
We feel good about what we are doing but are always looking to raise
the bar. This year we are looking to redo our entire website, make an
effort to bring in higher profile touring artists, and are putting a
huge emphasis on creating awareness about Velour and the major things
that are happening for our bands. Of course we will also continue to
feature cool specialty shows such as Cowboys & Indies, Slumber
Party, Valentines Masquerades, Halloween shows etc, as well as
creating other cool events to showcase local talent.
Gavin:
Moving onto local stuff, what are your thoughts on the Utah music
scene, both good and bad?
Corey:
I could talk about this topic for hours but that would be too much
information for this. It's obviously an exciting time for a lot of
Utah bands right now and the scene is quickly expanding. I have a
list of over 150 bands in Utah Valley alone. The bad might be the
lack of exposure the local music scene gets, especially Provo's.
Isaac Russell's family was recently in a record store in California
that was displaying his record on the wall. Next to it was a sign
that read "another amazing artist from Provo, Utah". I
sometimes think that Utah bands get more respect regionally than in
our own state.
Gavin:
Is there anything you believe could be done to make it more
prominent?
Corey:
Just creating more awareness about what is happening and getting the
media outlets on board. I want the whole community to feel pride in
what is happening and to get behind the scene like they would a
thriving sports team or how Seattle was in the 90's. I think bands
like Neon Trees should be on the front page of the paper receiving
the key to the city. Instead, when they played Jay Leno they got a
tiny paragraph on the back page, without a picture, that read Neon
Trees playing "Tonight".
Gavin:
Who are some of your favorite musicians coming up at the moment, and
who do you believe people should be checking out?
Corey:
This is another question that I could give you a very lengthy answer
but will try and refrain. My current favorite artist is Scott Shepard
and his band Book On Tapeworm. His voice is angelic and he is writing
the most beautiful lyrics and melodies of anyone around right now.
They are recording right now. I'm also very impressed with Jay
William Henderson's (former Band of Annuals front man) solo stuff. As
far as local bands making waves on the national scene, I'd have to
mention Neon Trees, Joshua James, Isaac Russell, Fictionist, and
Imagine Dragons. Also worth mentioning Desert Noises, The Devil
Whale, Parlor Hawk, Shark Speed, Norther, etc.... I could go on and
on.
Gavin:
What's your opinion on the current airplay on community radio and
how its affects local musicians?
Corey:
Radio play is huge! I got involved in the music scene in the '90s
when X96 was very supportive of the local scene and actually started
playing a select few on their normal rotation. That exposure helped
Clover go from a good local band to one that was getting more
requests than bands like Pearl Jam at the time. It also helped their
fan base skyrocket. Unfortunately most radio stations were bought by
corporations and wouldn't be able to do that now. That makes
community radio even more important. I think KRCL does a great job
with supporting locals.
Gavin:
Along the same lines, what are your thoughts on local labels and the
role they play helping out the music scene?
Corey:
I think local labels are great because they add advice, structure
and expectations for bands. I try and do the same thing with Velour.
I'm not going to discount the artists that just want to play free
house shows, because there is definitely a place for that, but if you
want to tour, and put out studio quality albums, there is an aspect
of business involved. I deal a lot with Northplatte records and their
bands all have great work ethic.
Gavin:
What's your take on the amount of press and coverage that local
papers and zines give to our music scene, and is there anything you
wish they'd change?
Corey:
I think I answered this already. Yes, I wish local papers and zines
were more aware and supportive of the scene.
Gavin:
Considering how we've grown over the past few years, do you believe
we'll become a dominant music scene in the years to come, or will we
always remain a hidden gem to the nation?
Corey:%uFFFD%uFFFDThe key is creating awareness and
community support. More awareness creates more attendance, which
creates more national exposure, which creates more label signings,
which then motivates the next young band to take it more seriously
etc. We use this method within Velour, but for the Utah scene to be
fully recognized we need more community pride and support. Provo and
Salt Lake.
Gavin:
What can we expect from yourself and Velour over the rest of the
year?
Corey:%uFFFD%uFFFDThe word of
the day is obviously awareness... of Velour and all of the music
scene. I just want to raise the bar again. New website, sound
equipment upgrades, better touring acts, better promotional material
etc. Should be an exciting year.
Gavin:
Aside the obvious, is there anything you'd like to plug or
promote?
Corey:
I'm also very proud of The Occidental Saloon videos I'm involved
with and that you wrote about recently. We started The Occidental
Saloon as another way to legitimize and bring attention to local
talent. They are all live performances on location. The Neon Trees
video actually broke a million views recently and is helping send
traffic to other great local acts.
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