When
it comes to the nightlife, papers and columns and even blogs like
mine try our best to cover it all, but the truth is we can't be
everywhere at once. There is however a user driven collection of
sites that's doing its best to do just that.
--- PartyUtah
has been going strong since 2002 as one of the premiere stops for
club coverage in the state. Teaming up with a network of
photographers and frequent clubbers, the website has gained a
dedicated following and is one of the few websites that's managed to
both showcase the ever changing scene around us while also acquiring
a list of fellow sites to further expand and promote. I got a chance
to chat with owner and creator Daryl Acumen about the website and its
history, the scene itself, changes to clubs and alcohol laws, and a
number of other topics.
Daryl
Acumen
http://www.partyutah.com/Gavin:
Hey Daryl, first off, tell us a little bit about yourself.
Daryl:
I'm an Internet business analyst by trade, specializing in web
marketing analytics. I've been in the field for ten years now. I
spent three years as the Senior Business Analyst for Network
Solutions (the company that owned Dot Com before the crash) and left
in 2002 to become the first Analytic and Best Practices Consultant at
little company called Omniture. Today Omniture is the largest web
analytic and business optimization software provider in the world
with over 5,000 customers and 1,400 employees...I was employee #25. I
have a wife, a stepson, and a cat named after a famous Japanese
statistician. I'm Black and no I did not vote for Obama.
Gavin:
How did you first get into the clubbing scene?
Daryl: I
assume you mean here in Utah. I was a heavy clubber back in Maryland
way before I moved here and when I agreed to interview with Omniture,
I made sure to tack a few extra days onto my trip so I could inspect
the local club scene. Knowing the state was heavily LDS, I wanted to
be certain there WAS a club scene before I uprooted and moved two
thousand miles from my crew! The truth is I probably would have taken
the job anyway, but visiting Port O' Call, Papiyons (spelled wrong
for some reason) and Manhattan reassured me that Utah was in fact a
safe bet. After the move, I made it my mission to know where all the
hottest places in the state were on any given night of the week.
Since I didn't have any friends or family out here, it seemed the
best way to keep from going stir-crazy in my apartment and running up
huge long distance bills.
Gavin:
Where did the idea come from to start up the website?
Daryl:
Originally I just needed a test website to try implementation and
analytic techniques for my day job at Omniture. I didn't want to get
stuck talking to a client about things I'd never actually tried. A
colleague of mine by the name of Keith Westover suggested that I
create a message board because it had the potential to generate
enough data to make analysis interesting. The original PartyUtah.com
was a simple ‘Snitz' message board with categories for every genre
of music, every night of the week. I figured if the website caught on
and people posted all the hottest places to go in town, it would at
least save me the time and gas of driving around town trying to find
hotspots on my own. I seeded the original website by asking all my ex
girlfriends to join the board and post (a really stupid idea in
retrospect, but it worked). One of my exes was very popular in the
GLBT scene because she lived with a house full of gay men who loved
to party. When she told them about the site, they all went nuts, told
all their friends, and PartyUtah.com became the biggest gay website
in Utah! It took me six months or so to realize I needed to diversify
and I started UtahNights.com (which is the current PartyUtah.com
homepage) as a straight alternative to the gay site. The result is
pretty much what you see today.
Gavin:
Did you believe there was enough of a scene for material and to catch
on, or was it more of a risk in your mind?
Daryl: There
was no risk. I knew there was a scene already because I was going out
three and four times a week enjoying it. The original site didn't
cost much to maintain and the risk of being stuck at home because I
didn't know where to go one night was much more intimidating than
losing a few dollars on hosting.
Gavin: After you got
the site setup how did you start getting pictures?
Daryl:
The original photo gallery was a feature request made by few of our
early users. Angela Saxby had been taking photos to promote
SLCParty.com since early 2002, but I didn't really notice. It didn't
really occur to me at first that the photos could be a promotional
tool. I just thought of it as a cool feature and a way to keep my
users happy. I still have those original pictures on my server
somewhere, but none were taken by me. After a year or so I bought an
Altoid camera (a little Pentax that you could hide inside an Altoid
box) and dropped by Natalie's to show it off to a bartender buddy of
mine there. I told him I was considering sneaking around to the
different clubs at night and taking photos of the hottest spots in
town so people could see how cool each club was before they went out.
I remember he wasn't impressed and told me it would never work
because bar owners would get mad and probably throw me out, so I
shelved the idea (and the camera) for the next two years. It wasn't
until 2004 that I finally bought a real camera and worked up the
nerve to ask the owner of SkyBar if I could take some promo shots in
his club for my website in exchange for free advertising. He agreed
and the rest is history! I think I eventually gave the old Altoid
camera to my mother.
Gavin:
Did you seek out photographers at any time or did people approach
you?
Daryl: In 2008 I got married and it wasn't really
in the cards to keep going out four and five nights per week taking
photos to promote the site. I decided that I needed some help. At
first it was just one photographer named Ruth Ruiz, but as demand
grew, so did the team. Today we have ten photographers on staff and
every one of them is at least twice as good as I was in my prime!
Most have forgotten more about photography than I will ever know. As
much as I'd love to dust off my DSLR and go shooting with them, these
days it just makes more sense to stay at home and let the pros do all
the work. I figure the more time my camera spends on the floor in my
den, the more my legend will grow!
Gavin:
What's the reaction been from both clubbers and the clubs themselves
over the photos?
Daryl: Clubbers love our
photographers! Our team knows how to make people look bitchin', so
the response to our work has been overwhelmingly positive. Unlike
some outfits from Vegas and California, we try to keep the site
work-safe and skirt-friendly and people respect that. The clubs are
pretty evenly split in their enthusiasm for the photos and the
advertising. Some are more excited about the photos because they show
people how much fun each event can be. Others use our special
photo/advertising bundles as an inexpensive way to get me to increase
their ad impressions. The general consensus among club owners and
promoters is that the pictures are a fun, sexy way to get people's
attention before they decide where they're going to spend the
evening. All around, the feedback has been uniformly
positive.
Gavin:
How did the decision come about to start up some of the other
websites?
Daryl: Actually most of the other websites
were acquisitions. Back in 2006 I did a research report for a large,
well known social networking site and realized the days of small,
standalone, regional websites as coming to an end... rapidly! If
local nightlife websites didn't band together and pool our content,
we'd be buried within a few short years by the big guys. At that time
I started approaching other viable nightlife website owners about
merging or partnering and most were receptive. I began with
SLCBars.com, then acquired SLCParty.com from Angela Saxby and
eventually merged UTRave.org with my own site UtahRaves.com in 2007.
Now the collective is stronger and much more viable. All told we've
either acquired or formed strategic partnership agreements with
nearly a dozen nightlife websites in the state and have assembled
something I don't think can ever be duplicated; a network with rich
history and broad reach that truly serves Utah's local nightlife
community. Many of the websites we've acquired over the years have
simply been redirected UtahNights.com, but as time passed I noticed
distinct demographic patterns emerging and I wanted to make sure we
served each group distinctly. That's why you see four main properties
today; UtahNights.com, SLCBars.com, UtahRaves.com, and SLCParty.com.
We then partner with other websites like Enevento.com,
DateSaltLake.com, ParkCityVoyeur.com and others, to provide content
that isn't core to our focus.
Gavin:
Does it ever feel hectic running so many different sites dedicated to
the nightlife, or does it feel more of a necessity now?
Daryl:
It can be crazy at times, but I really do feel it's a necessity now.
Most of the websites I host would have died away if someone hadn't
stepped in to preserve them. UtahRaves.com has been going in one form
or another since 1998. UtahNights.com and SLCParty.com have photos in
their libraries going back to the 2002 winter Olympics. Over the
years we've helped rescue club websites and photo archives from
places like SkyBar, Splash, Vortex, Axis, Naked, Suede, Shaggy's
Living Room, W Lounge, Papiyons, Banana Joes, and Cheers To You. I
believe it's an important part of the history of our community and
that these memories are worth saving.
Gavin:
How does it feel having all those sites now being an epicenter of the
scene?
Daryl: I'm not arrogant enough to think we're an
epicenter of the scene, but it is nice to know so many people rely on
us to help them find cool places to have fun. Of course I spend so
much time looking at the reports that I sometimes lose touch with how
valuable these sites can be. I read "1,000 people just dropped
by to see what's up tonight," and it goes right over my head.
One interesting reminder came last year when I implemented a new bar
listing database for SLCBars.com. As a test I added a bar called
Banshce's (my alter ego when I was a wedding DJ) and listing my cell
phone number because I wasn't creative enough to make one up. For
three months I got these random calls on Friday night from people
asking about 80's music! When I finally figured out what was going on
I felt stupid, but I was also impressed that real people were using
my websites to help them decide where to go. It sort of plugged me
back in. I don't think we're an epicenter yet, but I look forward to
the day we are. I'll consider PartyUtah.com to have finally ‘made
it' when I can call every bar in town for lineup information without
being hung up on or told ‘we don't like the Internet and we don't
want to be listed there.' Comments like that make a web marketing
analyst like me want to scream!
Gavin:
You're going on eight years now, what's your thoughts on the websites
lasting this long?
Daryl: I get that question allot.
It's true we've been at this a long time and I've watched dozens of
competitors come and go in that time. A few new ones seem to pop up
every year and usually don't last more than a few months. I think the
reasons we've survived so long while others have faded away are
pretty simple:
* Most people who try to do what we do get into
it with the hope that there's money to be made somewhere down the
road, and bail out when they realize there isn't.
* We stay
focused on what we know.
* We also repel the sort of people who
can't talk unless they're slinging bulls#!% because we call it when
we see it.
* People are more willing to support your ideas when
they remember you were there supporting them when they needed a
hand.
Gavin:
Going a little city-wide, what are your thoughts on the local club
scene, both good and bad?
Daryl: One of the things I
love about Salt Lake City nightlife is the people. When I go back
east or down to L.A., I'm always struck by how unfriendly and snobby
everybody is. I don't think locals see this because we're all used to
it, but with rare exception people in Utah nightlife are generally
friendly, warm, and easy to talk to. Even women who think you're
trying to pick them up will be relatively friendly until they know
for sure. It's an easy place to meet people, and it's such a small
scene that you're sure to bump into folks again once you've become
acquainted. Spend a month in L.A. and see how long it takes before
you to have friends in every club you visit. Warning: don't hold your
breath. On the down side, and here I think I'm about to show my age,
clubs in Utah tend to be a little younger and crazier than in other
cities I've visited. There's no happy-hour crowd (admittedly by legal
decree) and folks my age tend to spend more time at home than in
other cities. It leads to a feeling among those of us who do go out
that we're "...the old man at the club," to quote Chris
Rock. Back in Herndon, Va., Thursday night at Champ's was a weekly
ritual and everyone would come out to mingle and network. In L.A., it
was Thursday night at Victoria's for the Silicon Beach digital elite.
Here in Utah you're out of luck, unless you want to chase all the
college kids to Green Street. We need more watering holes with valet
parking and handrails in the bathrooms for us old farts.
Gavin:
Is there anything you believe could be done to make it bigger or
better?
Daryl: Yeah, the Department of Alcoholic
Beverage Control could take a chill-pill! I realize the DABC has a
job to do, but some of the stories I hear from clubs around the state
about their abusive enforcement tactics (bordering on ‘Gestapo')
really gives me pause. It's funny that the agency puts so much energy
into punishing bar owners who sincerely make an effort to stay within
the law, yet when somebody like me calls offering to help promote
community initiatives to combat drunk driving, I get the brush-off.
It seems like misplaced priorities if you ask me. I think the DABC
should engage bar owners as a partner that is sincerely interested in
helping them educate their staffs and succeed in compliance, rather
than a heavy-handed enforcer racking up hit-points with
‘gotchas.'
Gavin:
In your opinion, right now, what are some of the top spots in the
city?
Daryl: It depends on your scene really. One of
the things I like about nightlife in greater Salt Lake City is the
variety. Area 51, The Hotel, Bliss, Habits, Green Street, SkyBar,
Speakeasy...it all depends on what you're into and what night of the
week you like to party! That's why I started my website; you need a
guide to keep track of it all. For our tastes, my wife and I think
the hottest ticket in town is Steve Lyman playing classical guitar at
the Bayou on Sunday Nights at 7pm. Seeing a mesmerizing classical
guitar concert, front row with good food and an exotic beer? Even
after we slip a twenty in Steve's jar for the show, it's still the
best bargain in town. We go every chance we get!
Gavin:
It seems in recent years the DJ and big club sound is making a
comeback. Do you think it will stick around longer, or be a fading
trend like before?
Daryl: Dude, you are so asking the
wrong guy! You're better off asking me if I think Guitar Hero will
continue to raise awareness of 80's Metal or if Steve Perry will ever
do a reunion tour with Journey. Most people don't know this about me
but I'm not a big fan of House music, I can't stand Hip-Hop, I
haven't listened to the radio since Bush Sr. was elected President,
and I haven't watched broadcast television since MTV played music
videos! You may think I'm ‘connected' because of my websites, but
the truth is I'm pretty damned unplugged. That's part of the reason I
moved to Utah, and it's the whole reason I live on a hillside on the
edge of a national forest and at the mouth of a canyon. Think of me
as a younger version of Yoda; out in the middle of nowhere, connected
to the civilized universe only by the Force (and my wireless internet
connection).
Gavin:
What's your take on the recent liquor law changes and how they'll
impact the scene?
Daryl: Dude, you don't even know! I
love John Huntsman! If that man runs for President in 2012, he's got
my vote. If he doesn't run, I might even write him in (just kidding).
Changing the private club laws here in Utah was the smartest move I
think this state legislature has ever made. Last year during Sundance
I escorted a Washington Post reporter through the city for a front
page article on Salt Lake City's nightlife. Imagine how stupid I felt
having to explain away all these ridiculous laws while trying to
convince her that Salt Lake ‘really is a fun place to party' in
spite of them all. I used to have a quote at the base of my homepage
that read: "All clubs on this website are, according to stupid
laws dictated by puppets of the LDS Church who pretend to work in the
state capital, ‘Private Clubs for members.'" You have no idea
how good it felt to finally be able to replace that caveat with
something more positive. It's like somebody lifted a veil of insanity
and made this one state again. At the very least it sends a strong
message to those of us who are not members of the church that we are
welcome here. It'll take several years for the stigma built up over
all those years to melt away, but when it finally does I think state
lawmakers will be embarrassed that it took them so long to start
acting like Republicans instead of heavy-handed, big-government,
legislative hacks.
Gavin:
What can we expect from you and the websites over the rest of the
year?
Daryl: We'll obviously be taking allot more
pictures at more venues, but expect to see more varied content as
well. I don't believe we're doing enough to cover some of the more
popular niches and I want to change that. Expect to see us covering
more GLBT, Country, All Ages, Rock/Metal, and Latin events this year.
That's my goal.
Gavin:
Aside from the obvious, is there anything you'd like to plug or
promote?
Daryl: Most people don't realize PartyUtah.com
is a user-driven website. Anybody can submit photos to our gallery,
and in many cases we'll feature them on our homepage. You can even
import galleries from Flickr. Club owners can update their
information on SLCBars.com in real-time rather than waiting for us to
call every few months with a survey. Anybody can post on
UtahRaves.com or start their own online community at SLCParty.com,
complete with its own blog and message board. Every once in a while I
still meet people who are convinced you have to be a DJ or a promoter
to participate in our online communities... not so. PartyUtah.com is
a website of the people, by the people, for the people. Everyone is
welcome to submit content and participate in the makeup of the site.
Come share your ideas and your creativity. We'd love to see you!