The
festival season is officially upon us, and in full force no less as
Pride and Farmer's market already kicked things off. But over the
course of this weekend the festival run takes a turn into the night
before things start to turn warmer.
--- Area 51 plays host again
to the
Dark Arts Festival, currently celebrating its tenth year and
doing all it can to bring out the best for local fashion, music and
art from its most tenebrous%uFFFDand lurid of places. This year
instead of talking about it prior, we talk about it as it happens and
interview the band Tragic Black, all with
photos of their performance
and shots from the fest for you to see from last night. And don't
forget to head over tonight for the finale.
Tragic Black
(Seputus, vISION, Johno, Stich and James)
http://www.tragicblack.com/Gavin:
Hey guys, first off, tell us a little about yourselves.
vISION:
I am a hyper, black haired, pale, skinny, tattooed, loud and ready
to party, fiend.
Johno:
I'm the new guitarist and also the youngest in the band. I have been
playing the gitbox for about seven years now and classical for about
four years now under my mentor, Troy Leavitt. I'm pretty much the odd
ball out in the band but i have fun and try to play music that i can
look back on as a good experience. I am mostly a metal head from
heart if you've met me you know.
James:
I'm James. I play drums.
Gavin:
What got you interested in music, and who were some of your favorite
acts and musical influences growing up?
Johno:
The first time I saw my friend play "Rock You Like A Hurricane"
in front of my whole school in 8th grade, I was hooked.
Soon after I went to my first concert to see Korn and was able to get
backstage and meet the band. The rest is history after I met Dimebag
Darrell when was 15.
James:
I grew up in the rural 90's before the internet. All I had was MTV.
Then in 1993 I got my hands on a copy of Skinny Puppy's Last
Rights.
vISION:
Edward Scissorhands & Nikki Sixx did it for me. Since then, a
dark, surreal path has been set before me.
Gavin:
How did you all get together and form Tragic Black?
vISION:
Soon after realizing there is no empty space, Tragic Black dawned on
Vyle and I. We shared a vision, chartreuse and
clairvoyance.
Johno:
I was approached by James to fill in for a few shows shortly after
there last guitarist left in September and as a favor I did, but all
the guys seemed to work well together and had a positive attitude so
we began writing new material.
James:
I joined years after the inception. I started as producer, then
picked up the drums.
Gavin:
What was the main motivation behind wanting to do a gothic/deathrock
type band when you first started, and how was it working it out as a
five piece?
vISION:
"To bring in the darkness is to show them the light." In
blackness, you can see your inner light emerge and bring light into
the world that often seems so full of war, famine, corruption and
darkness.
James:
Deathrock is just a label. It has more to do with appearance than
sound. It encompasses a huge variety of bands. We're trying to push
the boundaries of what Deathrock can be. We just sort of evolved into
a five piece and that seems to be the dynamic that works best for
us.
Gavin: At
the time you started there weren't a lot of bands coming out with
that kind of sound. How was it playing the clubs at that point and
what made you stick through it?
James:
A lot of terrible venues and shit sound. Sometimes the only thing
keeping you going at that point is the drive to redeem yourselves for
the last awful performance.
vISION:
Cause & Effect. Intent, will, drive. We have an inspiration to
create something that every cell in our bodies hear, feel and
understand.
Gavin:
The first album was Articulate Lacerations back in 2002. What
was it like recording that album, and what did you think of the
reaction to it when it was released?
vISION:
We've really evolved/changed since then. The time it came out is
when we started playing out of state, when we brought the world the
heart and mind of ancient Egypt, the return of Pharaohs...
James:
I wasn't in the band at the time, but I remember Bill Frost's
scathing review. "Goth talk has never been this funny". I
got a copy of it from a friend a couple weeks later and then ran into
Derek at a party and hounded him to come record with me for the new
album.
Gavin:
Over time you've lost some members like any other band. Is it
difficult to find a replacement or do you usually know who to find to
fill that void?
James:
It's always worked out in the end. The band has some distinct era's
do to it's rotating cast. You can tell when members changed
throughout each album. Every door that closes, opens
another.
vISION:
The void is empty, yet so full. It's the 4th dimension,
the stepping stone between the 3rd and 5th
dimensions. Das history: Our line up has mostly changed guitar player
wise. Once James (Seputus) joined in 2003 or 2004, so like Vyle &
I, he's never left. John Varoz has been playing with us since Fall
2009 and is recording our upcoming full-length album with, along with
Stich who originally joined in 2001, released The Sixx
Premonitions then quit to move to London and get married. He
re-joined after moving back to SLC. Hex has been in the band three
times, recorded on our last two CD's. Ashe was in the band a lot of
times too, he recorded guitars on The Decadent Requiem. Jesse
James Joined after Hex left the 2nd time, who we recorded
our upcoming 7" vinyl, The Dead Fall. Then there is Toni
who was in the band during the 01-02 era and made our debut album
with.

Gavin:
Over the past decade you've built a strong following around the scene
and have pretty much become the goth band of SLC. What's your take on
the impact you've had?
vISION:
The earth is still operating on the 3rd dimension, not
5th, so the true impact is yet to be made. We've made
more of an impact on the goth/deathrock scene in other places like
Germany and many places in Europe or Hollywood, as opposed to SLC.
Here we do well, but when you're local you're never taken as
seriously as you are in other cities/countries.
James:
I don't know if that honor falls on us, but I hope that we've
inspired other artists. I would like to see some new up and coming
bands step in.
Gavin:
The last album you made was The Cold Caress
which did pretty well here. How is it for you seeing where you've
come in that album to all the prior ones along the way?
James:
It was the first album that I didn't feel we were muddling our way
through. We came into it with a pretty clear idea of what we were
going to do and did it. Despite the many set backs.
vISION:
After the Awakening, it was time to enter a new world. The
Cold Caress happened so fast. We
wrote it in about 2 or 3 months after returning from Germany for the
first time. It's a conceptual album, based around my story/book In
the Cold Caress. After TDR and having such an angry, political,
intense album about awakening to so many forces in the world, we
wanted to make an album that takes you out of that world and into one
that's more like a dream. Where you are in control.

Gavin:
The news right now is you've got a new guitarist and are working on
a new album. What details can you give us about your current
plans?
vISION:
Our new album is centered around the Earth Element and the Heart
Chakra. Our new guitarist John is very talented and has brought a
great sound to the band. There's been an underlying theme with each
our CD's. The Decadent Requiem (Fire Element /
Red-Orange-Yellow Chakras) was about awakening and the world being
destroyed. The Cold Caress (Water Element/Blue-Throat Chakra)
was the winter after the destruction, where the world was frozen
over. Now, the Earth CD we're working on now is about after humanity
is gone and nature reclaims the Earth, growing over what humanity
left behind.
James:
We are very excited about our new guitar player John. He has jumped
right in to writing new material and it's been great so far. We have
a 7” vinyl The Dead Fall coming out soon and we are
currently recording our new full length album do out next
spring.
Gavin:
Any chances of a tour to follow or sticking around town for
now?
James:
There is rumor of a west coast tour in the fall and Europe in the
spring.
vISION:
We're going to go on a West Coast Tour through Boise, Seattle,
Portland, San Francisco, Hollywood, Long Beach, San Diego and Las
Vegas this Fall, to support our 7" record. We're also preparing
for our next big European tour early 2011 along with other European
festivals.

Gavin:
Going state-wide, what are your thoughts on the local music scene,
both good and bad?
vISION:
SLC is the place to be if you live in Utah. We've recently played in
Ogden for the first time and it was really fun. We also want to play
Orem sometime too. I love Club Vegas, The Abyss, Kamikazes, Kilby
Court, Urban Lounge, Area 51 and Club Edge.
James:
SLC has one of the best music scenes in the country. There is a lot
of talent here. There aren't as many good venues as there used to be,
but the bands here try to help each other and work together. As for
the rest of the state? I'm not sure.
Gavin:
Is there anything you believe could be done to make it bigger or
better?
James:
We could use a quality mid-sized all age venue. Something with an
actual stage within the city limits would be nice.
vISION:
I wish we would have done more to appear on the movie "Blood In
Chocolate" that we were asked to be on. The loss of members and
re-adjusting has been a set back at times, but I believe it's all for
a bigger reason. Now were in a position to truly become who were
capable of being.

Gavin:
Aside yourselves, who are your favorite acts in the scene right
now?
vISION:
I'm a big fan of Stem Cell Ghost, Carphax Files, Domiana, Heartbreak
Hangover, Endless Struggle, Negative Charge, Subrosa, Riverhead and
Cavedoll. Some of us are also in other bands. Stich and I are in a
sleaze rock band called CORVID. I also have Disruptive Creatures, an
Electronica/New Wave project w/ Jordan from NJ who does all TB's
graphics, CD's, Merch & Website. Then I also do Spectre Theatre
with fiends from Germany, Sweden and L.A. James (Seputus) is in the
amazing Goth-Rock band Redemption Bound that also features other
ex-TB members, like Ashe.
James:
Vile Blue Shades are fantastic, and of course my other band,
Redemption Bound, who just released a new album.
Gavin:
What's your opinion on the current airplay on community radio these
days and how its affecting local artists?
James:
Do people still listen to the radio?
vISION:
I love it so much, can I get a beer with it? Portia at UtahFM has
had me on a few times and she's so nice and supportive. There are
others, X96 has played Tragic Black, which was cool. There's also
KRCL. Cheers to all of them.

Gavin:
What's your take on file sharing these days and how it affects you
as musicians?
vISION:
It has it's advantages and disadvantages. Being heard is most
important. Our CD booklets/packaging are very intricate and take a
lot of time and effort. Jordan Livingston, our graphic designer
(from New Jersey) is incredibly talented and has been working for us
for over five years. The design/look of the album is half of our
presentation, so I prefer that people buy our albums to truly hear &
see the art we've made.
James:
It's definitely changed the way you have to approach your
distribution. Online presence has become more important than having
your albums in stores. The reality is recorded music has very little
value these days, so you have to be putting out something beyond that
and offer it in a way that presents choice. People want to be given
options.
Gavin:
What can we expect from you guys over the rest of the year?
James:
More rockin. Look for us playing in Ogden and Provo.
vISION:
We'll continue recording & mixing our upcoming CD between tours
and everything else.

Gavin:
Is there anything you'd like to plug or promote?
vISION:
Thanks for spending time in the shade in the of Tragic Black world.
Listen to us at our MySpace page. KEEP
MUSIC EVIL!